I'm not a fan of having a doctor's note to be a model, but I do like the fact that 'shopped pictures must be labeled. Now I fear that maybe the women are 'larger' than wanted by the advertiser will starve themselves to be thinner just to avoid the disclosure.
What's your take on this?
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Israel requires a warning label on models made skinny with Photoshop!
Israel passed a law yesterday banning the employment of "underweight" models in advertising, and requiring publications to disclose when they've used Photoshop to make people look thinner in pictures.
Models are now required to get a doctor to state that their body mass index is at least 18.5 before they're allowed to pose for photos professionally.
The laws are intended to slow with the rise of anorexia and bulimia, especially among young girls.
Is this too heavy handed, or should other governments follow Israel's example?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/20/israel-models-law-idUSL6E8EJ3IT20120320
( Pic props: http://www.befter.net/user/Scarione/beft/model-edited-on-photoshop/ )
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Heaven forbid women in the media look like . . . actual real women instead of having barbie doll proportions. :head desk:
I like the intention, but I do fear that the result is that models really will have to be that thin to be accepted, and that it will increase bulimia and anorexia. We need to change our mindset. Woman have curves, and that is a beautiful thing.
It's a start, far from perfect, but people/regulators will take note. Good that an Israeli Model Agency guy is one of the proponents of this.
I don't like anything about this.
I think it's an awesome move!
18.5 BMI? I mean, considering many models are in their early 20's and typically very tall, I hope they are also using other measures besides just BMI. I don't think my BMI was 18.5 until I was in my 30's. I do like the idea of not pressing for "skinny", but it's hard to gain a lot of weight when you eat healthy and exercise regularly unless you gain muscle mass, which is what I had to do. I love the acceptance of larger sizes and beauty that spans different sizes, but having to gain weight would be just as stressful for a naturally thin woman as losing can be for a heavier woman.
I can spot a 'shopped pic a mile away. I hate how long it's been going on, and how nobody has put a stop to it. They shouldn't have to use a marker when they shop an image, they just shouldn't shop images!
I've been pondering +Mike Elgan's post and think that this is a needed attempt at resolving a real problem. That said I have the same fear you've expressed, +Lynette Young and hope we are pleasantly surprised by whatever actually happens.
+Annika O'Brien agreed that BMI is a very poor measure at all weight levels. If you work out with strength training techniques like I do, you almost always will end up with enough extra muscle/bone mass to push you to the high end of BMI, even if your body fat is well below 10% (for men, or 20% for women).
Women who are larger than advertisers want (which is basically all of them) already starve themselves. And then the pictures are 'shopped anyway to create an even more unattainable ideal.
At least now they can't starve themselves to death.
i'm with israel govt.
I like it! A minimum BMI would encourage healthier models. The high-school-anatomy-skeleton-look of almost all the main-stream models make them look sickly and strange, almost inhuman. 'Shopping aught to be discouraged outright; real people are always lumpy and bulge in places, and an evolved culture should be comfortable with that.
Honestly, I am totally for it. The models now are currently entirely too skinny and don't reflect how clothing actually looks on us "normal folk". Not only that, but it will help reduce deaths in the modelling world due to anorexia.
I dislike BMI I think it's an outdated metric. My BMI is a bit over 30 and according to that I'm just at the obese threshold. I'm 5'5" and an American size 12 & solid muscle (well, almost). I also know of women who are naturally thin and tall that would fail this test but are NOT skin and bones by any stretch.
The only thing I Photoshop on my pictures (besides stuff for artistic flair) is my hair color. The purple never comes out right in the pics! <grin>
Oh, next, they need to make clothing for real sized women, not just put more material on something to bump it up from a size 2.
I'm not okay with the government imposing restrictions on individuals' bodies by threatening their employment. It doesn't matter if the desired body type is arguably more healthy/"real"/"normal"/whatever else you want to call it (which is a whole other can of worms). It's not in anyone's best interest for governments to be legislating it, even indirectly.
If BMI is going to be the basis of health, I don't see why they wouldn't just get breast implants to increase their weight. I really think there should be a better measure than weight and height. Why don't they just start passing out donuts and limit the height on the models. I'm 5'11" and to expect me to gain weight to catch up with obesity rates is absurd. In the 80's some of the healthiest athletes were below 18.
this is such a touchy subject. rampant over use of photoshop has become a sad industry norm in print, which is really sad. obviously this model in the preview was perfectly beautiful before they sized down her hips. maybe what it really will take is more of the magazine buying public to write in to their favorite mags showing appreciation for full figured women. regulating model size does sound like a slippery slope.
i would also like to point out that it is equally unfair to point out women who wear size 2 as being somehow "unreal." i don't see how i am any less real than any other sized woman. i respect and love women of all sizes and shapes. i would hope that respect could be returned to me, regardless of my smaller sized curves.
OMG ^^^ This is so epic! I must take a screen cap before I pee myself from laughter!
+Annika O'Brien I hope you screencapped that idiot <grin>
POOF GONE.
me too
🙁 That was the bestest comment ever. I was busy drawing a circuit diagram. For reals.
+Scott Hammack I disagree with using the BMI as the be all and end all. But I think if Western governments adopted a similar approach to regulating this kind of thing, then it could simply be a requirement for agencies to have their models have regular appointments with doctors and be cleared before shoots. Whatever their shape, height, weight, as long as they're healthy they're good to go.
With regular, required check ups the doctor would have a better knowledge of individual models' weights and health over an extended period. Make it a requirement for agencies to employ nutritionists and whatnot, too.
Like athletes and sportsmen and women, these women make a living from their bodies, and therefore have a vested interest in keeping them healthy. If there is no standard, or if the accepted pseudo standard is fundamentally unhealthy then the women are at risk just pursuing modelling as a career, and so are the girls on the receiving end of the models' work.
The fashion industry, and whatever bodies preside over it, is hardly doing a stellar job of protecting its bread and butter. lol S'doing a terrible job of, well, representing the species it's offering its products to. It's almost like having Olympians dictating human trends from on high. The Olympians of course can smile without generating lines at the eyes and cheeks. They have no veins in the whites of their eyes etc.
Goverment regs are needed.
As to shopping. For a glaringly apparent demo of how it's creeped in over the decades, since Quantel's Paintbox, people should check out Playboy. I say this because modern Playboy is an example of just blatant and crude photo-manipulation.
An alien visiting a post-apocalyptic earth could stumble upon three decades worth of Playboy and see the evolution of women. lol From the varied species of the seventies to the generic bronze and blemish free species of the nineties and noughties.
It's an absurd publication. XD
Soon photo shop will become under certain instances, unprofessional and tab boo to use.
Some people are a lot smarter than the way they look at things. Information is always available.
Aw, I missed the idiot commenter…
+Michael Bernstein it was pure genius. She blocked him doo 2 him no know how sentence put in words yeah pretty too
+Michael Hodge Imagine a world in which a professional photographer is a person who relies more on the intelligent use of light, lense, and camera (settings lol), than on editing software. Madness!
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omg that all right,, very great…
photoshop please chek that.lol
yeah,, i think so..
Near to me. you look hot before. my dear.