Holy hell what a mess. I deal a lot with Facebook Pages and don't bother much with the intricacies of personal / friend organization. I need to get in touch with all my local friends (in my town) ASAP and there is no way that I can find to just view/search/sort for them. Can't I just have narrowed-down view of all my local friends in Facebook without going through all gazillion of them one by one?
Here in Google+ I can at least sort out friends by circles. Facebook lists are useless and cumbersome.
I will officially and publicly declare that I HATE FACEBOOK.
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I'm currently participating in two incredibly vibrant and active groups on Facebook that simply could not be duplicated — not even close — in Google+. (I suppose we could share circles with 175 people and hope everybody implements and updates as new members are added, but that's kinda ridiculous.) Until there's a group function — and everybody who should be in the group is on G+ — Facebook will remain an important tool for me.
i totally agree
You can sort them. You can list them as friends, acquaintances, etc. and send messages just to that group. It takes a bit of time to set up but once it is done it is easy to put people in the right categories.
that was one of the things i DID like about myspace. you could at least find people by zip code or city
I love the Facebook groups as well. (Besides work / client stuff) it's the only feature I use personally.
agree………..
I agree that the facility has google + to control and you access the people closest is over, alert the circle is much better and especially the contents that go on the main page if you can control the content of the alert circle
I only have close friends and family and work mates on facebook, everyone else I deleted a long time ago, I dont ever see or talk so I dont accept their friend requests
Sadly, it's the one people use the most right now. I don't use FB for public stuff, but all my friends are on it.
Right now it's the local friends I need to get in touch with, and so far FB has that locked down for me ;/ OTHER than that, I love G+ more
+Lynette Young go to your home page then select friends, then next to the search box you can use the drop down to select by location either current city or hometown.
Well, that's the difference, isn't it, +Nancy Cavanaugh — a hassle to set up and maintain in G+, drop-dead easy and made for group activity on Facebook. That's why even if Google+ thrives, Facebook will continue to succeed. Each has its strengths.
Hey, I'm Jay. I'm with you, I Hate It too! I just shut down my page yesterday!
Facebook sucks canal water. Is beyond the shadow of any doubt the ugliest most boring site I have ever seen..
Myspace rocks for music (so I've heard) & maybe Facebook will turn into groups & pages? Who knows…. I do like their groups though. Right now I just need a simple thing from the damn system – a feed of all my local friends. Took me 20 minutes to find it and set it up. It shouldn't be that hard….
I had my friends categorized before. Now, when I try to put them in a category, Facebook tells me that they will notify that friend what category I put them under. I do not like that.
#hotmess
Face To Face, Face Off.
I have friends, family and work associates on Facebook. Very few are here and if they are, they're not using it. They all converse more on Facebook. I'm all good with that. I would rather keep that separate from here anyway. Here I can be me and not have to worry so much about not offending my SILs or other family members with my stuff.
Can do without the security check that is difficult to decipher, and at times when the "words" do not appear makes reposting, reposting, and reposting — annoying, and time consuming ;(
I would switch completely, except for those few good friends who are still on FB and don't want to learn G+ and/or have to check another site regularly. I've just decided to treat it as two completely separate (but both valuable) communities. Only go to FB every few days though, and I always talk up G+ when I'm there 🙂
Facebook == ( 90' Geocities + Kindergarden )
I prefer Google+ to Facebook…. but 99% of my friends are on FB and not on G+. Being an expat FB for me is still the "easiest" way to be in contact with them.
I just added google + today because of facebook and timeline. And I agree with stefano. Google+ is certainly prefered but everyone is still on facebook (no matter how horrible the new format is). HOWEVER, i do have more friends that agree to switch as well.
INVITE MORE PEOPLE HERE. fixed 🙂
People are already here…. most of them already has a G+ account. They simply do not visit this place ….
I hear you, sister ! You should try being a web publisher and novice web developer, and trying to add Facebook's Social Plugins to your web pages. Their developer support is very poor. Last month I discovered that all of my site visitors who were using Internet Exploder version 7 or earlier would get a blank page when they visited any of my pages where the FB "Like" button or comments were installed. It may only be 5 or 6% of my traffic… but that's still not right. I eventually found the solution, but it didn't come from Facebook.
I agree with you 100%. I think Zuckerberg is a jerk and the Timeline thing turn me off as well.
Soon enough, everyone will transition from facebook to google+, just like they did from Myspace to facebook. I'm still on facebook to keep up with the people I grew up with & a few co-workers that I keep separate from Linkedin. That's important to me since I'm so far away from them & my family.
I like the headline photo/picture in FB but hate the timeline. It barely displays in any sort of order for me.
Today alone, I have lost over a dozen comments I've made, unknown number from those commenting on my stuff, and numerous lost images…
But I don't like the new timeline either – my photos don't show up on the main page now…only in the timeline. So no one see's them unless they go to your page.
I was just explaining a similar issue to someone yesterday. I wholeheartedly agree.
Comparing Facebook's future to Friendster's or MySpace's is naive and fails to recognize the dynamics of the social networking marketplace. Here's how Clay Shirky (whom I admire and respect a ton) put it when interviewed recently on "On the Media:"
"It's hard to guess how long Facebook will be around. I mean, everything ends at some point. But I don't think that there's any foreseeable future in which Facebook goes away or even becomes significantly smaller or less important than it currently is.
"Well so, do you remember that moment in the 1990s when it was possible to imagine that mobile phones were kind of a fancy luxury that you might have but your main phone was your house phone, like you had something tied to the wall? MySpace and Friendster were sort of like that era of mobile phones, where it might be fun to be part of a social network, but really it wasn't the main thing you were doing on the Internet. The importance of — you know, I had the search engine, we have this email, and then we've got these social networks over here, and they're kind of fluff.
"So now, fast forward ten years, and mobile phones become something that's gone from being a luxury that you might have, to being a utility you have to have. So the big difference between the Friendster and MySpace era and the Facebook era is that social networking, like mobile phones, has gone from something that's seen as a kind of sideline to something that if you don't have it, you're now actively at a disadvantage in large parts of society."
Clay's absolutely right. You may like G+ a lot more, but it's not going to displace Facebook. Not in our lifetimes.
Here's the link to the full transcript of the Shirky discussion:
http://www.onthemedia.org/2012/feb/03/there-life-after-facebook/transcript/
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What? We have no idea what will replace Facebook. One can never predict these things. This is the Internet, people, not gravity.
you should not have so many you do not know or to know enough how to find them my dear! that is regardless of where you surf. i happenn to find you all the time and like that but then i do agree you are in my loved google circles; more than one i believe. but my facebook "friends" are numbered by the ones on alittle more than toes and fingers, how ever if i can not actually find them if needed then i guess they really are not "friends" then are they?
Oh my god u no u live on Facebook blah blah blah
one on thecyber space lives everywhere jack-ass, why judge what information you do not comprehend? stupid motherfucker!
re "Can't I just have narrowed-down view of all my local friends in Facebook without going through all gazillion of them one by one?" Is ht why we are hanging out in Google +
I've been sorting people into lists on Facebook and it seems to work quite well. If you don't rely on Facebook giving you their predetermined lists – which populate from data people put in their profile (and yes – people might not put their location in) – and do your own lists – it works great. I have lists for everything from High School & College friends, to Soc media friends and local businesses. I can find people from my daughter's school PTA as easily as those I know from when I lived in Hong Kong as a kid. So I don't think the lists are any different from the circles, you just have to make sure to curate them – which takes effort on either platform.
Facebook is very different than Google+. On Facebook i got people who i know in real life. There is only one person who i know on my Google+ list and all the rest i have never seen. So it creates
abit chaos because the person do not know you, and misunderstanding is very common. While on Facebook i got very close true friends who always comment my status. Who are sincere. On Google+ i blocked at least till now more than twenty. It is a bit frustrating, i hate shit talk, like if i hear a person speaking of a woman in a hangout or chat i will block this person. Many people don't know each other at all here yet the judge each other. That kind of friendship i don't want.
I invited many from my friends on Facebook they don't want.
Why i'm on Google+, i really dunno why, i'm experiencing it and after a few months i either quit here or stay it depends. I'm promoting my music too it is a reason.
+Abir Lillman have a look at +Musik Kanal and may be you get inspired by my experience as we have something in common. My old friends are in facebook and some of them did not even respond to my request to connect with them. Google Plus is a once in a lifetime chance, a window that is opening for a few months if you take it serious and work it out to establish new contacts that might become friends. It is anonymous until you have met the people in a a hangout. It is less stressful than any other kind of making contacts to share a message with the option that you really hit some wh get inspired by your performance and start promoting you for because of what you gave to them emotionally. It is no longer about us when we start engaging in Google Plus, it allways is about the other, as you might be able to derive from my comment. Have a great day.
Well, hangout you mean on video it is not the same thing as meeting them in real life. I'm checking your page. Even my family didnot want to join Google+.
I think Google should get their act together and start banning abusers of this system. Facebook is way better in this.
I need also to get to real fans Gothrock music lovers. They are very few here. On Facebook there are million of pages with this theme.
I'm skeptical, i was very excited first on Google+.
Thank you for listening to my sincere opinion.
Have a nice day from Sweden.
+Sheldon Steiger could you explain to me if Gothrock would fit into the concept of +Musik Kanal. From my point of view, the response of +Abir Lillman is close to the story that I have in mind about two salesmen sent to Africa for market development. One returned home telling "everybody walks barefood" the other reported the same by telegraph and gave order for immediate shipment of shoes. Google Plus is a place for market development. Please take into account that I am not familiar with the Music industry myself. I am just looking for those who are.
That is very rude statement. Personal attacks they are not an opinion, you actually made my point here, there are abusers on Google+.
Bad mouthed males abusing women a free system on Google+, there is no admin or whatsoever.
I end a discussion with you.
+Abir Lillman how about just ignoring it. I got to learn something a couple of years ago: Put your attention to it, and it will grow, and you will make it stronger. Ignore it and it will fade away and make you free. I agree that it does not really make sense to continue with interruptions like that. May be Musik Kanal would be the right environment.
Holger, it is a good idea, thank you. But i'm giving out a positive critic to Google+ to sort this out.
Would they want pedophiles, women abusers, offenders on their system.
Facebook is more on this issue.
And Gabriel, i ended the discussion with you. I ignore you like Holger suggested. Keep on your personal attacks, i'm not going there.
i quite frankly use them both, and find that statement narrow-mind as you only get out what you put into either. you sound like a petulant child. how old are you anyway, and if you don't want an opinion, the do not post, whether it here or there miss lillman/gabe
ha aha aha ahaa
Holger Michael Keller. Quite an impressive post. And Acadamic English. Would probably respond in Swedish. Lynette Young a social media speaker for women. Responded to her post about Facebook. To organize information and communication on mutually agreed principles: Tack så mycket, Det handlar om kommunikation och bemötande, men också om medvetna.Yes, indeed common interests. Gothrock is an interest and women activism. A reason i added Lynette Young.
so you should discuss an opinion instead of just judging with first with your critisim, then biased opinions, as you accuse me of. i forget that america ain't free or something. it is a choice to block or mute the conversation block if you choose. i stated you sounded like a petulant child, now your whining seems to get louder. education is the best way to accomplish anything and you don't get that by shutting down sides of a discussion, except for those things you want to hear. if you do, then you might as well speak in the mirror for you alone. but even prayer goes far to teaching one about themselves if no one else at the time alone
i oned and maybe that true that your is better held if it does stick to the topic discussion–facebook vs. google. sorry if ignor the fact that it is easy to get off track if some are only using to get on another. the euphemism of long is amazing, and you am of many a song and dance when review this discussion. i finding intriguing to find so much selfrighteous, inconsideration sometimes for others opinion on an open discussion forum. how do you break the ice in the morning before you drink?
whatever
G+ is a virtual communication platform, those using the platform are human, behave human, there are simple ways in real life communication that apply for virtual life communication as well. A conversation starts in public and continues in private. The environment that +Lynette Young offers for people to meet on a perhaps common subject and get to know each other is more open than the one of a brand page that is on a mission, nevertheless it is not her job or Googles job – it is our job to decide on how, what and why we exchange in public. For me it is learning. I am not familiar with Social Media. I want to help +LightRecycler as a brand and we found out that for us Google Plus is a tool, that needs guidance and learning to master it, but when it is done, we will have set up a team of like minded people, organize communication based on mutually agreed principles and a process for curating a brand page. I would assume that the same applies for your aim as well. For principles and process it does not make a difference if they are applied to the subject of Light-Recycling as a way to save electric current and make people feel more secure, give people room for creativity and help them grow a specialized community, or GothRock as a music genre. May be if I would have understood Gabriel I might have been able to answer him. I could understand your thoughts, therefore I could answer.
Danke für den Hinweis auf diese Diskussion (cc +Holger Alexi )